Tell me goonie, where is all the money your alliance has earned in all these years? Our isk has been transformed into the titans we field but what about yours? Oh sorry, I know, you have no clue about what your leadership does with the isk and you are not able of think for yourself... Anyway you can repit that RMT song forever if it makes you happy.

Is there a way to filter out goons and pets in this thread? its just full of trolls..

havent seen 1 descent post from any of you....

personally i think this is just another way down the road where BLOBS win...
really bad.... i remember last time we had this, you CCP were real proud of that right?? no?

So why do you continue the "nerf" way instead of making the big changes to sov. ??

3 tracking mods against mwd'ing drakes with multiple shield mods increasing sig to almost carrier size.
So capitals gets nerfed to use slots for tracking instead of tank or cap etc..... but all other ships can do what ever they want....gratz CCP... you really think about you customers through many many years....

So who wants to place bets on how long it is before goons wipe out raiden. since numbers are everything in this game now.

omfg so you want us to believe that the fuckton of B isk you generate per month with the tech is entirely spent in drakes for the pilots?
you should know that all major alliances have reinbursement programs. for instance all our fleet ships are for free and still we have the isk to build a huge supercap fleet.

i remember a few years ago you had the biggest titan fleet. we got into a system and all our fleet was doomsdayed by just one of your titan pilots. we lost everything while you were doing a titan conga and we did not moan. we just adapted to the new situation. now one question for you: what have you done with all those titans?

Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.

If this patch goes through it will basically make titans logistics platforms and only rarly will they be used to do anything else bc whats the point of using a 90b isk ship when you can use a 1b isk dread and do the same thing?

if your going to nerf them fine but do so in a manner which also addresses the reason they are used they allow a group of players that are willing to field 100x the isk of a massively numerical force and have a chance to win. dont half ass the nerf take the time to truly balance the game. instead of working on things like silly new launchers maybe take the time and actually balance the internet spaceships we all log into play.

i don't have the issue with the titan nerf itself and am looking forward to see that they do with the new role, but i think if they are going to do that they need to do it not just nerf them. also your hyperbole dosnt address my point of if one side is willing to field 10 to 100 times the isk of the other side they should have the potential to win(not garented to win bc numbers are an important factor just the potential). in doing a stop gap rushed patch like this they make quantity everything and quality mostly useless. that is my issue with it.

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There is also another question CCP should think about:
Should Eve be all about spamming drakes or should the entitiy with the better and forwardthinking strategy be rewarded?

71 pages and all i got really from this is

1. Goons cry and get what they wan
2. Greyscale appears to be a moron, and they still let him make changes like this to the gam
3. This change is going to happen this way and no other, CCP say they are listening to alternitives but wont actually make any changes to the idea that they have pulled out of somewher
5. I think Greyscale is a moro
6. After this patch there will probably be a STOG, where thier leader/CSM will annouce he has manage to get CCP to destroy the use of titans and they can now take over EVE, after which they will must a few thousand toons and do so
7. there is more but im tired and can no longer be bothered to try have an idea changed when its known that CCP generally dont give a rats ass about anything other than goons want and will conform to thier needs and only that

Thanks again CCP. Next attempt at a game you should probably employ

You fail.

CCP doesn't develop this game as their private hobby. They do it for money of their customers. And my money as well.
Every time they forget it - they loose players and this leads to money loss. Remember monoclegate?

Now, about theese changes. For few latest patches CCP favors "some unnamed alliance", and balances game around them. It starts to smell like few years ago, when CCP favored "another unnamed alliance". But well, who cares.

As for me, i dont like game trends for last few patches, and i've cancelled today subscription on 12 (yes, twelve) of my accounts. I hope one day i will read about supercaps viable not only for structures hitting, but for actual pvp, so i will be able to get back into game with spaceships not a structures.

But untill that time, all i can say: farewell o/

If it really is for one thing only, I was never told this. DD to kill all sub caps was first incarnation.. even thou you are very happy to say this all the time. Make us able to dock the things so we can wait out this horrible nurf in stations. Would you have us stuck in ships that can be used 1 time every month if we are very lucky ? Pretty sure someone said this with Supercarriers also...

This just proves that CCP and Goons have a suspicious relationship.

Dear pubbies,

Did you know that former Goonfleet CEO Darius Johnson is now the head of security (CCP Sreegs) and in charge of banning botters? According to their forums, not a single goon was banned during the last banwave. Did you know that CCP Sreegs named his son Alexander after The Mittani and that The MIttani is his child's god father? Can you expect fairness in this situation?? CCP needs to answer about how many goons receive a CCP pay check.

Recently the Eve-O site was redesigned. In completely unrelated news (I SWEAR) Solo Drakban is the goonfleet webmaster and does freelance design work and was recently very busy with a contract.

There is a huge scandal coming that is going to blow T20 out of the water. Look for emails, chatlogs, etc. that prove that CCP devs have been directly helping goons to get anything they want.

When is the last time you asked CCP to change something and got a quick response? Andski of Goonfleet demanded that CCP change their rules about *SCAMMING* using the recruitment channel. One of the only safe places in which people could find a corp. A CCP dev and community moderator responded within 2 hours with a change to the rules. People have been asking for ways to stop non-mutual PVP for years with no response.

All of this is out there and obvious. If you take off your blinders and take a step back you will see the gigantic writing on the wall.

You can't threaten me. I am reporting you for making threats and even though you are in CSM I will see you banned.

Vile rat. It is you. It is you who is the worst GoonFleet poster.

Up until now Greyscale, Titans were never "pure anti-cap". Indeed, pre-dominion their primary function was to mass murder subcap fleets with their AOE Doomsdays. In Dominion you replaced the AOE with a directed weapon, capable of hitting any ship, and in addition you enhanced the regular XL weapon bonuses "so that the turret locators actually might get used [to]enable a Titan to make its presence felt on the battalefield" " to quote your own devblog.

Now however, they are suddenly "pure anti-cap" as if they were never intended for anything else.

Tell me about Being Objective CCP Grayscale you tool.

I can wait for your next announcement showing us all the brilliantly thought out counter to 800 maelstroms.

Dear very important space ship personality,

the main purpose of AE DD was obviously to kill subcaps in large numbers.

The main purpose of focused DD was clearly to be able to kill every ship with one shot (including subcaps).

So as you can see the idea that supercaps should be a pure anti-capital weapon is rather new.

However, I do like that this was changed and do think that supercaps still need balancing. Making them useless is not the solution though.

It must be broken completely before it can be fixed. You heard it hear first folks. Straight from the Goon Illuminati's mouth.

maybe you should grab one and calculate how many dreads it takes to kill our titans and how long that would take given your current tech income.

Please be honest,

many people consider artillery to be broken (especially people who get ganked in high-sec).
What would be your reaction if CCP says:
"We think artillery doesn't work the way it should, we will thus reduce its falloff by 50% as well as its alpha. This is not the final solution and we don't like it but atm the moment we don't have the ressources to fix it properly. And until we find ressources to deal with it --> go and **** yourselfes"

I dont have a titan

We're telling you right now, these changes will not stop blapping and people will still cry about it. All that will happen at the moment is it will delay how long it takes titans to start shooting stuff.

Then you must agree that these changes will still leave us with a broken ship, I don't see the point in making changes until CCP defines the role they want this ship to fill.

I think 5 scan resolution is too much, there's not that much difference in a sieged dreadnought locking a titan and vice versa.